KDE 4.0 where to go

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So I uploaded this only because I wanted to ask for your opinion.

It would be great to make a Poll out of that question.

How should KDE 4.0 look like? (from the view-point of style)

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While KDE 3.4 and Windows XP are looking so to say 'childish', OS X and Longhorn look from the aesthetical view-point very 'stylish' and 'smooth'.
Now, they said there would be a lot of eye-candy in KDE 4.0 but how should it look like ?
Will there be a 'stylish' and 'cool' KDE 4.0 that looks just as good as OS X,
and which uses icons that are looking more aqua-like, or will there be a KDE 4.0 that uses icons such as Crystal or Nuvola and looks more 'colourful'?

In my opinion KDE 4.0 should be a Designer-Desktop Environtment.
Everything should look seamless, smooth, just like a Desktop Environment of the future would look like.

I would like to know your opinion so please post your opinion as a reply.

Maybe we should make a Poll here at kde-look.org and let the folks that develop kde know what the community expects from the aesthetical view point of KDE 4.0.

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MMax

15 years ago

I like that werry much:
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25328

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janet

15 years ago

I like the look of KDE the way it is now and I like the crystal icons. And I don't like the overstyled look of OSX and so on. If you want that kind of "style" use Gnome.

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6thpink

15 years ago

In my opinion KDE can already look any way you want. Of course, you could add tons of stuff by default, but then you will also need a "futuristic" machine to run it.

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p0z3r

15 years ago

There are already a few places these discussions are taking place. Plasma discussions can be found on the kde-artists.org forum here:
http://kde-artists.org/main/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,48/expv,0/board,5.0

More developer type discussions are being done on a mailing list here:
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/panel-devel

Post ideas, be creative, add to the discussions, mockups are great if you can make them. Be part of the future, and Plasma will be everything we want it to be!
http://plasma.bddf.ca/

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tomoe

15 years ago

Personally i'd like a rougher... dirty look.
But i agree that it'll be more successful if it's very smooth and futuristic ...

And it needs a windec that can be turned to auto-hide... ;-)

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athleston

15 years ago

I mean I absolutely believe KDE-ites can and should take pride in the super-human achievement of equaling and sometimes surpassing both WinXP and Max Os/X. Yet it is an undeniable fact those two proprietory OSs are still almost unassailable from a design point of view because of the huge investments made in usability. Its why KDE ppl keep harping on about ...do it just like {blank} OS. I hope you Devs and Designers (Dess? to coin a word) out there understand its not that KDE-ites still love their legacy OS... they just want KDE to have the_same_usability. So its regrettable but we will be hearing those words for a long while to come.

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elektroschock

15 years ago

This is idea spam but:

From my perspective a magohany style is needed. Not brushed metal but magohany wood.

Further I am convinced look of KDE is fine. Longhorn styles look great with the brushed mozilla style but is far from beeing stylish.

You cannot make a good-looking interface when you just copy.

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lane

15 years ago

stop spamming kde-apps.org with bullshit ideas. I'm soo tired of people posting *suggestions* on kde-*APPS*.org. This site is for real content, not for ideas.
If you have ideas, go to bugs.kde.org anf file a wish report.

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poisoned

15 years ago

even nearly look like M$ Bluescreen or OS X ? Why do some ppl. always wanna make it look like one of those two ? (almost every new windeco I saw at kde-look resembled the absolute DISGUSTING XP windeco)
I absolutely hate teletubby style interfaces, and the first time I saw someones XP desktop I actually found it so ugly I wanted to puke right away ...
On my laptop I couldn't work with some huge spacewasting style anyways, because I'm limited to 1024x768, which is an important argument for small styles.
IMHO KDE 4 should have a unique, slick look ...
One example of a perfect style I like like is enlightenments milk theme (http://enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/Screenshots/DR16_Screenshots_images/E_DR16-3.jpg): slick but beautiful. Another IMHO good example is the minimalistic reinhardt style for KDE ...
Also a small windeco would be nice ... (I currently use System++ because with the Web windeco you can't resize windows by dragging the lower corners, which is sad)
But the Plastik Style is very nice (not so the windeco), and as long as it doesn't get replaced with keramik as the default I wouldn't begin nagging anybody ;) =)

for the icons ... the most important thing to me is that they are uniqely identifiable at small sizes, which Crystal SVG is ... and it does look nice also at small sizes, which doesn't apply to too many icon themes ... so I would say stay with them ...
actually some icons shipped with the crystal svg version in kde 3.4 don't look crystal anymore (compare to the original crystal SVG 1.0 package) ... like the folder icons, the back&forward buttons and a few more .... I would replace them with the original again ... because they looked nicer ...

... I wouldn't care too much about the default look anyway ... you can configure it ^^ ... the only thing I would really care about was if too much performance would be sacrificed for eyecandy ...

sorry if this post doesn't make too much sense ... I'm really sick atm and can't really think clear ^^ maybe I should post again later ^^

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borisb

15 years ago

Ok, thats what I wanted to avoid.
I dont want KDE to look like OS X or Win.
No, it SHOULD look UNIQUE.
What I meant is that at the moment KDE falls into the Win XP category, the 'Teletubby style' as you called it.
I wanted to know if people want KDE to look slicker than it it is at the moment not as childish as it is at the moment.

Reinhardt and Milk themes are indeed themes that look slick and fall into the 'slick'-category just as OS X.

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koral

15 years ago

http://kde-artists.org is the right place to hold such type of discussions. raise your ideas there ^_^

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leinir

15 years ago

go check out kde-artists.org's message board? :) There is a lot of discussion as to the look and feel of KDE 4, and the community is what's fueling that debate. Quite frankly, I'm a tad surprised you haven't noticed it, it's all over the place - KDE-Look's own news section, the Dot, mailing lists... Go check it out, it's worth your while, trust me :)

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borisb

15 years ago

yeah.. thx

I just looked at the artiists forum...

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