KDE CC/IC, Konqueror, KMail (IN CVS)

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements

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UPDATE: (01/31/05):

I just wanted to update everyone and thanks those responsible and all the people that have helped me along the way.

I appears (thanks Jeff and Mr. Riddell) that it has, hold your drinks, been put into the latest CVS. I am busting with happiness and not much on speeches :)

UPDATE: (01/02/05):

Finished. The final, polished, versions of about:knoqueror, Info Center/Control Center, and KMail.

UPDATE: (01/01/05):

Ok, first off sorry to keep bumping this to the top with updates ;) This is going to be the last one till the final set is complete (Which should be hopefully tomorrow, we'll see how my inpiration hits me). I have reworked much of the boxes, added some polish and am going to give each client its own background. I would like to have the text use a scroll bar instead of the resizing currently being used but dont know if thats going to be feasible or not (crossing fingers). Idealy I would like the text restricted to a somewhat small font but that wont particularly matter if its got a toolbar. Anyway I am hoping everything goes well, the devs like it enough to want to get it into KDE 3.4 (they have as much of my help as humanly possible in that field). I am really hoping on talking to one of the devs about how to actual get it in there as its still very much a bunch of pixels in a PNG file at this point ;) Anyway, I just wanted to keep everyone updated and thank them again for their support.

UPDATE: (12/30/04):

I have officially entered it into the KDE Artist mailing list. I have spoken with someone and he would like to see changes made to KMail and about:konqueror as well and they will see what they can do about sneaking it into KDE 3.4. I have begun work on KMail and doing the about page for Konqueror shouldnt be to hard.

They are all still perliminary but its looking good to have the changes made to these programs. It is still very early and things may fall apart during the coding stage as some code will need to be changed but its atleast rolling.

Wanted to thank everyone for their tremendous support.

UPDATE: (12/29/04):

I have been playing around with the actual KCC now. KCC and KIC both call upon PNGs located in %KDEINSTALL%/share/apps/kcontrol/pics. I have modified some of those PNGs to create actual working models. It doesnt resize and it basically will only work for me (or anyone else who is running the identical font and window size) but this is actually what my KCC looks like.

I have emailed KDE and await an answer but I guess this 3rd entry is an example of how you could theme your KCC to your specific disro :)

I find the graphics in the KDE Control Center really need an overhaul. I would love KDE to set itself apart become much more pleasing to the eye. They still hold many "80'ish" design styles (Lets also get plastik or is derivatives to the default style huh guys?) and really need to push into the 21st century with some of the graphically beautiful features that are available.

(KDE logo from the truly fantastic wallpaper by skullbooks)
Last changelog:

15 years ago

Info/Control Center (Screenshot 1)
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KMail (Sreenshot 2)
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about:konqueror (Screenshot 3)

protoman

16 years ago

It seems like we will have more and more a very polished desktop.
But I have a sugestion for one thing that always I found annoying: the text length on thse info screens. You know, in english the text works ok, but in portuguese the text is bigger than the screen even on 1152*864 resolution!
You see: "KDE Info Center" that in english uses 15 characters including spaces, in portuguese is "Centro de Informações do KDE" using 29 spaces. So, why can't it kind of being changed to fit the text into the screen, adjusting it's space on the fly?

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vide

16 years ago

What about putting a big mail envelope as background of KMAil splash, where actually there is the same Konqui background, a map of the world?

Anyway, really good good work, keep it up!!

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finiteman

16 years ago

What if you base your artwork on different elements of submittions to the svg wallpaper contest. This would be sure to offer consistancy as KDE rolls into the next release. And once again demonstrate the awesome power of Open Source. As all of the wallpapers are GPL or LGPL and therefore legal to use. This would also have the unique side effect of insuring a wide acceptance of the look you present since you could pull ideas from the top ten so far. The other thing is to get a team together so that you can continue to maintain the look and funcionality of these elements. best regards.

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finiteman

16 years ago

This is why I love open source. Great job to all involved.

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yf12s

16 years ago

Hey, here is a proposal. Any chance this could be SVG so that way it could scale with different window sizes more gracefully? Obviously, you still need CSS and HTML holding the page together. I guess I don't know how well SVG integrates into web pages yet, since I have never seen it in practice.

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lokheed

16 years ago

All the templates and work is not vector based, but rather bitmaps. I dont know anything about SVG or what it would entail but if it can be converted then the only resizing would be to scale them down at the moment. I would have to redo the entire thing to make it true SVG and that aint going to happen any time soon.

I got positive feedback and it was suggested that they might (MIGHT), be able to sneak this into 3.4. I think that would be a treat for everyone...but not holding my breath.

To implement it now, wouldnt require to much work, but to make the entire thing SVG would no doubt require much programming and I dont think its going to be possible for 3.4 because of this.

SVG would really be nice as it would certainly solve a lot of scaling issues in everything. Its really the way to go so artists like me dont have to always work around different sizes and resolutions...

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Superstoned

16 years ago

well, imho this is a great idea. especially if it would be implemented now, would save work for KDE 4.0 :D

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eean

16 years ago

I'm not really sure how I feel about gradients. There are certainly people who don't like them though, check out the amaroK forum at amarok.kde.org in regards to the OSD.

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adrenalize

16 years ago

The newest screenshots are quite fine, giving the control center a very professional look. I especially like ss1.

Hope it gets fully implemented in KDE soon. And thanks for spending your time on this! :-)

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rgfree

16 years ago

...well just as I told you:
The bug has just been set
invalid. The KDE team does not accept
bugs like this. The only way
to get this into KDE is:
The author himself must
write to a mailinglist like
kde-core-devel or kde-artists
and request his work to be
included in KDE.

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lokheed

16 years ago

I subscribed just now and sent them an email...lets see what happens.

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rgfree

16 years ago

Cool! Thanks for taking the
time to bring this in KDE 3.4
This is really badly needed.
I'm interested too to see what
happens now - just from a
"political" point of view.
Do they really react better if
someone writes to a mailing-list?
Or is this just like someone at
an office telling you
to go "next door"?
IMHO the whole idea of not
accepting a bug if it refers
to sth. already existing is completely
stupid. If a bug i.e. just said
"The design of the clock should
be more customizable
they would probably not mark
this bug invalid. But if you
say where they can get some
inspiration in form of a full
working implementation it is
suddenly invalid?? I cannot
really understand this. Nobody says
they have to use the source code
or implementation. They can take
their time and implement a bug
wishlist item from scratch ;-)
It's a good idea to get new
developers more involved in
the KDE project. But must this
happen by alienating them first
and forcing them to "knock" on
the mailing-list-door of their
elitist tower? It's sometimes
a bit too bureaucratic for me...
Hope you have success with this
anyway.

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lokheed

16 years ago

At this point I have no idea what is going on. I receive emails from the mailing list about this and that from who, I don know.

I havent a clue how this works, who I am talking to 90% of the time or really how my art is going to actually have to be: do I have to conform to an already made template, can I make changes, etc?

They could make this process much easier unless they are happy with what they have. This process is certainly not the best and since I am not a coder, have never worked on a project before, or know my way around these facilitities, its a little overwhealming.

I will stay focused and continue my work, but you have some points there. If they loosened things up a little, more people might be interested in helping. I mean there are certainly a lot of hoops and a lot of work I have had to do and jump through just to get to this point and no one has said yeh or neh at this point, so thats a little bit of a bummer...

Will keep you guys informed.

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ashish

16 years ago

that's uber cool!

are all the three mockups? or is there any way the idea can be actually implemented? especially the boxed text in the center.

i'm using kde 3.3.1 on gentoo

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lokheed

16 years ago

*cough* read the change log *cough*...

The first and last are actual screen shots of what my KIC and KCC look like now. The 2nd is a complete mockup.

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AnXa

16 years ago

This is fantastic. I hope it will be added to Kde3.4 or it will be with kde4. I hope that we don't have to wait that long.

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kdeveloper

16 years ago

Well if you like you can vote this feature on:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96035

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lastnico

16 years ago

done. ;-)

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kdeveloper

16 years ago

Well they closed the bug as INVALID. The author of this wonderfull patch has to contact the kde-core-devel list if we want it into KDE 4. Not possible for KDE 3.4 because it's not in the feature list.

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lokheed

16 years ago

Thank you. Wow 130 votes so far, thanks everyone :)

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kdeveloper

16 years ago

Well if you like you can vote this feature on:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96035

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lastnico

16 years ago

It's a major FEATURES that is missed in KDE!

Your work is really wonderful!

I also think that each category need a different background, which will be more useful than a list of different configuration tasks.

Thanks!

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kdeveloper

16 years ago

Well, I like it and I think should be considered for KDE.

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Sebien

16 years ago

Wow!
I LOVE it!

I always thinked KDE still keep very old graphics.

Since Crystal and Plastik, KDE begin do become a very beautiful and appealing desktop (like concurents such as MAC OS X or Win XP), and this KControl theme is very welcome.

Any chance to have it included in KDE 3.4?

For the future, it would be cool also to remove very odd styles (System, CDE, KDE1, KStep, OpenLook...) and provide the best rated styles on kde-look directly in KDE.

(old styles could be packaged in eg. kde-artwork-nostalgics for the 1 or 2 peoples who still want emulate them... :)

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hds

16 years ago

hi!
do you have patches available (/usr/local/portage) perhaps? would be fun playing with it!
or did you already start a thread at the gentoo forums and i missed it?

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15 years ago

Info/Control Center (Screenshot 1)
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KMail (Sreenshot 2)
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about:konqueror (Screenshot 3)

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