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Jack Gandy
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=151057 I decided it was far enough along to upload it. Be warned- it's still what I'd consider Alpha quality, so don't expect every application and widget to look completely accurate.

Still, I think it's much better than relying on the Clearlooks theme bundled with Adwaita for now. - May 23 2012
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

A more recent screenshot: http://oi48.tinypic.com/2qkklkz.jpg

Just a few loose ends to tie up. Also, if anyone has any tips on how to theme focus-lines in GTK, it would be much appreciated. For now, they're simply ignored. - May 21 2012
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

Correction- it's based on 3.4, not 3.6. - May 20 2012
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

Hey guys, I started work on a new theme based on Adwaita 3.6. It includes the button styles, entry widgets, and a few other things that weren't in the last Aldabra. There's still a lot of work left to do, but here's a screenshot. http://oi50.tinypic.com/2n8d5jr.jpg

I'll try to get it as close to Adwaita as possible, but when I can't figure out how to make it any more accurate, I'll release it. In the meantime, let's hope people port the rest of their applications to GTK 3. - May 20 2012
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

There are many more differences in Adwaita 3.6 than I had previously realized. For a fully consistent theme, almost everything has to be modified, so we might as well start fresh if we make something like Aldabra for 3.6.

Pixmap could make it easier to get the graphics just right if the other engine(s) won't generate the desired effect, but it would of course use up a lot more memory. :\ I'm just trying to see what the most logical course is if we won't be getting an Adwaita GTK 2 engine any time soon (if ever). - Mar 07 2012
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

I contacted a few key developers upstream, and asked about the possible creation of a GTK 2 Adwaita engine, since that was the preferred way forward.

However, it seems this is not (and probably never will be) a priority. They simply don't have the man power, and they want to focus on the future rather than taking valuable time to bring the past along. In fact, GTK 2 simply can't support many of the improvements that will be made in Adwaita in the future.

A good, well-tested, speedy Clearlooks theme that blends with the titlebar is sufficient for their targets. They would rather help people port their applications to GTK 3 so everyone's up to date. This sounds like the right decision to me, as well.

I also contacted the author of QGtkStyle- he is working on too many features relevant to Qt5 to have time for GTK 3, as it's quite different from supporting GTK 2.

So, here's how things are; We won't have Adwaita-compatible theming for GTK 2, and Qt apps won't use Adwaita until after Qt5 is released. If we want consistency until everyone has ported to GTK 3, we'll need to double down and make a clean, updated theme every six months. It's clear that this will be difficult and time-consuming, especially since Adwaita isn't finalized until a month before GNOME is released (UI Freeze).

Any thoughts? - Feb 26 2012
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

As expected, Adwaita is getting a few refinements in time for GNOME 3.4. In fact, quite a few.

Scrollbars, tabs, progressbars, and 'emphasized buttons' have all undergone several changes and refinements. Perhaps the most obvious change is the scrollbar- no more up/down buttons, just a dark grey bar similar to the scrollbars in the Shell theme.

https://plus.google.com/105456590916227806289/posts/gk8aaxfeMux

Unfortunately, that's the most relevant link I could find to an image, and it's sized down. :\ This brings up, again, the question of whether it's tenable to keep up with Adwaita, or if we need to pursue direct engagement with the devs close to Adwaita.
- Jan 22 2012
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

I was only referring to the one pixel white border around menu items. Thank you for being so attentive- I thought you might like to know that the GNOME Bugzilla bug about a theme has a lot of discussion about Aldabra, and possibly including it in an update, or 3.4. The general feeling is that "we should do better than a modified Clearlooks, at least, even if the patch isn't perfect."

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=646556

I'm sure that if the theme were adopted into the project there would be a few upstream folks more than eager to contribute to the theme- it may be helpful to get into contact with the author(s) of Adwaita to see what they think. - Nov 15 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

Just a small update.

Since updating the Aldabra package in the AUR, a few users have commented very strongly on the small border around the menu items and loss of dividers.

I haven't been able to find a solution to the very subtle grey gradient that's appearing (in murrine, at least), but it seems clear from the feedback I'm getting that it would be better to have that gradient and retain the other elements of the theme for now. Since the gradient is very difficult to detect unless you directly compare menus (and even then, it's only just barely noticeable), I think it may suit the users better to deal with the grey for the moment.

Of course, you're the author, so it's ultimately up to you. Just giving some feedback until we find a more suitable solution to the problem. Either way, it's an improvement. :) - Nov 14 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

Ah, I see- apparently I had had murrine from git due to another theme I downloaded- my mistake. I can confirm a very faint dark gradient in the upper section of my menus with murrine 0.98.1.1-2 (from Arch's community repo, the official latest stable version).

However, it is very faint- I can only just barely see it. I'll have to take some shots to see just how large the disparity is. At first I thought my eye was tricking me. I can't really think of a way to get one effect without the other at the moment- I think I'll have to contact the author.

It could be possible to theme the active buttons and dividers with the pixmap engine, I believe, even if this ends up being unreconcilable. - Nov 07 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

Just following up- after taking a look at the installed theme, I'm not entirely sure what this 'grey blob gradient' is. It may give me better ideas of ways to solve the issue.

Here's an image of what I see on Arch Linux with each of the themes. If you could point out the specific issue we're having, that'd be great. Is it only with certain applications? Forgive my ignorance.

http://i43.tinypic.com/3509bvo.jpg

To be clear, the only changes I made between those two on the right is the menu style option and the removal of the contrast line (lines 105 and 302). - Nov 05 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

Thank you very much- I'm perfectly fine with that. In fact, MATE uses Aldabra by default, and I'm fairly certain Adwaita isn't included in their setup, so symlinks may be another choice for people who are certain they want it in the future.

To be honest, I've found it very difficult to find any Murrine documentation (same goes for other engines). It appears extremely flexible, but many options that seem obvious were added fairly late in its development.

The best I can think of is contacting Cimi directly, or a seasoned Murrine themer who's willing to expound on their knowledge of the engine. Of course, we could just use pixmap to cover it up, but that seems extreme. I'll let you know if I come across any useful information.

Also, thank you very much for being attentive and patient with users like me. XD I'm glad to help. - Nov 05 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

So, any word on when you might be merging the updates? I'm guessing you won't be including the metacity hacks, since that's definitely not consistent GNOME 3 behavior, but releasing a new theme with the menus, toolbar dragging, and symlinks would be beneficial.

I don't mean to nag, but I'd like to give Arch users an easy way to enjoy these updates, so after another week or so I'll probably just add the modifications to my AUR package regardless.

:) Thanks again for contributing so much already. I think this is certainly good enough to last people until the good apps get ported to GTK3. - Nov 03 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

Good idea- it's needless to repackage Adwaita, especially if this ends up falling out of maintenance down the line.

Looks like the buttons and tooltips are the only obvious issues left. Thanks for the contribution- I feel less (more?) obsessive-compulsive already. - Oct 15 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

Oh, neat- I look forward to seeing how the Firefox tabs would look. I'm totally fine with you adding these changes, as it would give me a chance to update my package in the AUR (Arch User Repository).

It would probably be wise to keep the old theme uploaded in case someone's using a stable distro (like when Debian Stable finally comes with GNOME 3).

I don't think Adwaita will change to an extreme amount in the future, as this new update is fairly close to the mockups. The biggest change I see is that 'pretty' round tooltips may be coming to GTK 3.4, and Adwaita may not even use them. - Oct 14 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

http://www.mediafire.com/?0c61va9tcfpy126

Hey guys- here's a link to Aldabra with a few changes. First, it's using metacity and gtk3 from GNOME 3.2. Second, the menus and tooltips have changed to more closely reflect GNOME 3.2 (flat, borderless).

The only issue is that murrine doesn't seem to allow you to make the tooltips or menu items entirely borderless, so that's a bummer.

If any murrine experts are lying around who might know how to 'de-style' this stuff, please let me know. - Oct 13 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

After checking out GNOME 3.1 in the Ubuntu Beta, it seems there are quite a few changes to the theme. Most notably, the menus and buttons, although there are a few more which will likely be different.

Do you think you'll be up to updating this or making a new theme for the new Adwaita? Or should we just wait for more people to port their applications to GTK 3? :\ Seems that the GNOME team isn't very serious about integrating anything but the menu bar BG color for GTK 2.

Thanks so much for giving us a seamless experience, by the way, even if this version of the theme was short lived. I'm sure this will at least provide a nearly-identical theme for the next release, in the meantime. (I'll post some screenshots when I get home this evening) - Sep 12 2011
Simply Basic II

GTK2 Themes by LordPickle 35 comments

Nice- I love the integrated toolbars. A lovely theme inspired by some good elements. I hope we still see a lot of these 'shinier' themes in the future, despite all the flatness that seems to be pervading interface design these days.

Keep up the good work. :D - Sep 08 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes by ceramicm 121 comments

The patch that allows menubar dragging in gtk2 also seems to have an option available for toolbar dragging. As Adwaita has this feature, are there plans to add this option to the gtkrc file in Aldabra? - Jul 25 2011
Aldabra

GTK3 Themes
by ceramicm

7 .4
Jul 25 2011